OK, I know this site is about supplements for all kinds of things, but I think most men using it are looking for supplements that will increase muscle mass and strength (besides fat loss).

How would you define success for a muscle or strength supplement? Let's say that a supplement helps you gain muscle or strength. Would it need to keep you that big or strong without you having to eat more in order to maintain it? Would eating more gain you that much muscle or strength regardless of whether you took that supplement?

For me, a strength supplement is only useful if it gets me stronger given a constant (high quality) caloric intake, and allows me to retain that strength when I go off of it. I already know that increasing my food intake will get me bigger and stronger without any supplements. For this reason I am extremely skeptical about especially the non-hormonal strength supplements around today. I'm posting this because I'm currently in week 2 of using USP Labs Prime. I've experienced a strength increase, but I believe it's only because of additional body mass due to increased eating (over the weekend!).

I was reading a couple of Prime threads (and lots of reviews), and some of the people are saying stuff like "if you train hard and eat right then it will work."

My point in this thread is that salt & pepper will "work" if you train hard and eat right.

BTW, I don't have any positive results with the Prime yet, and I've completed 3 weeks. Review coming next week.