My mom had covid, corona, she is 78. She took 4 to 6 drops 4x a day and after two days she had nothing (from severe headache sore body coughing, dry, no fever, could barely walk from tiredness.
I have been using MMS for some years. Like anything, ice cream for example, you can overdose!
I believe the secret to using MMS is always taking low doses - no more than 4 drops at any one time with at least a 4 to 5 hour wait time in between. We know this stuff is very powerful. You may not know it but you already use it yourself but you don't know it! Chlorine Dioxide is used every day by thousands of water distribution companies all over the world to keep water clean and fresh! Its used in the UK in both toothpaste and mouthwash and people notice how clean and fresh their mouth is. The key is its used in minute quantities because its powerful stuff. Its been sold for many years and still is in camping shops for those heading to the outback or jungle. 1 drop will make a gallon or 4 liters of drinkable water out of a swamp. That's powerful! A bad reaction means you are mishandling it. Drive a car dangerously it will kill you. The key is to kill the bugs in your body when they first arrive. Let them dig in then linger and you may never get rid of them. This stuff dissipates to harmless salt in about 2 hours. As we are 65% water - maybe 80% when it comes to the blood you can see in theory it may just work. As an occasional long time user I can say that it certainly does. I am 69 years of age, in good health and I am the natural father of a 6 year old and drive a jet ski once a week.
It is delicious and mixes easily with no clumps. There are only a few ingredients and all of them I recognize and it is NSF Certified for Sport so I know it is clean and safe to take and it is third party tested. Happy with the quality of it. It is a little more expensize then some of the other brands but is worth the price based on the guarantee that it is safe and clean.
my wife and I took MMS and we were running to the bathroom for diarrhea, t stomach pain , throwing up and chills even after 10 hours after we took only one dose.
MMS got rid of all my joint pains in approx 3 weeks and also my sun hives which would appear at the beginning of every summer. What is important to note about MMS is that the formula for it changed. When I first used it around 2010 it was two liquids mixed together, one of those liquids was 50% Citric Acid. This has now been replaced by 4% HCL - Hydrochloric Acid. The old formula with 50% Citric Acid caused a lot of stomach upset, whilst the new formula with 4% Hydrochloric Acid aids digestion.
Also the way people are told to take MMS has changed - instead of very high doses, people are now encouraged to have very low dosages - usually upto a maximum of 3 drops per hour for upto 8 hours a day.
A lot of the negative reviews of MMS were from the use of 50% Citric Acid - taking it with 4% HCL makes MMS much more gentle on the body. As others have said, when I first used MMS I noticed I was flushing out many strange things from my body in my stools. Some of which may have been parasites.
I also believe I flushed out mercury from my body from years of dentist fillings as a child. The smell I would get of my stools was exactly the same smell as being in the dentist chair having a new filling put in. I think accumulated mercury might have been the reason I had sun hives every summer and once flushed out the sun hives just went away and stayed away. Before MMS I had to be covered in head to toe with long sleeves or sun cream - now I can walk in the sun with shorts and a T-Shirt and no sun screen and I'm totally fine, I never burn now.
With regards to joint pains - my wrists used to click and my toes would click when walking, within 3 days of taking MMS the clicking stopped.
For those of you considering taking MMS use the version with 4% HCL in it not 50% Citric Acid and most of the negative things you read about MMS won't apply.
I use to take the NuCare powertabs two, what can I say it worked. I got really big huge gains from it, but what I want to know are the new powertabs the same as the old ones that had came out like over 18 years ago
There isn’t a proper category for this product, as it’s not a supplement. However, I felt compelled to provide a review of it.
It’s a litlte strange how Listerine Zero got such high reviews and ratings on the Canadian Listerine site (http://www.listerine.ca/products/classic-clean/classic-clean-zero), but not anywhere close on the .com site (https://www.listerine.com/mouthwash/alcohol-free/listerine-zero-mouthwash), where it garnered 1 out of 5 stars for 41 of the 126 reviews. One wonders why…
I started searching the reviews after I had been given a free sample and started using it, and getting some nasty effects that I could liken to another product I had used years earlier. That product was Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS for short), which I reviewed here: http://www.supplementarium.com/supplements/817-miracle-mineral-solution-mms/reviews.
MMS is basically sodium chlorite, an industrial cleaning agent. I found that it caused the tissues in my mouth to slough off, and I could literally feel them coming off on my tongue as I ran my tongue along the sides of my mouth. A similar thing happened with Listerine Zero. If you look at the ingredients, it has sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) listed as an “inactive ingredient”. Supposedly, the “4 essential signature oils” comprise the active ingredients, and are responsible for keeping one’s breath fresh. I would argue that it’s the sodium lauryl sulfate that is doing most of the work, killing the bacteria - and, unfortunately, destroying other good tissue in the process.
Even the top positive review on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B003QH1P6W/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_hist_1?pageNumber=1&filterByStar=one_star) mentions "possible mouth peeling", and there are plenty of negative reviews there that describe the skin peeling effects.
Another reviewer on the Listerine.com site identified SLS as the cause of huge chunks of cheek and gum tissue to be coming off; it was also confirmed by this reviewer’s dentist. SLS is an industrial detergent and known irritant, which you can read more about here: http://slsfree.net (and many other sites, if you search around).
All that Johnson and Johnson, the company behind this product, would respond to these negative reviews was how they want to gather additional information from and speak with the reviewers directly. However, that was over a year ago, and the product is still on our supermarket shelves, being bought and used by the unsuspecting public. I find it utterly disgraceful that such a dangerous product is allowed to be sold.
There isn’t a proper category for this product, as it’s not a supplement. However, I felt compelled to provide a review of it.
It’s a litlte strange how Listerine Zero got such high reviews and ratings on the Canadian Listerine site (http://www.listerine.ca/products/classic-clean/classic-clean-zero), but not anywhere close on the .com site (https://www.listerine.com/mouthwash/alcohol-free/listerine-zero-mouthwash), where it garnered 1 out of 5 stars for 41 of the 126 reviews. One wonders why…
I started searching the reviews after I had been given a free sample and started using it, and getting some nasty effects that I could liken to another product I had used years earlier. That product was Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS for short), which I reviewed here: http://www.supplementarium.com/supplements/817-miracle-mineral-solution-mms/reviews.
MMS is basically sodium chlorite, an industrial cleaning agent. I found that it caused the tissues in my mouth to slough off, and I could literally feel them coming off on my tongue as I ran my tongue along the sides of my mouth. A similar thing happened with Listerine Zero. If you look at the ingredients, it has sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) listed as an “inactive ingredient”. Supposedly, the “4 essential signature oils” comprise the active ingredients, and are responsible for keeping one’s breath fresh. I would argue that it’s the sodium lauryl sulfate that is doing most of the work, killing the bacteria - and, unfortunately, destroying other good tissue in the process.
Even the top positive review on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B003QH1P6W/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_hist_1?pageNumber=1&filterByStar=one_star) mentions "possible mouth peeling", and there are plenty of negative reviews there that describe the skin peeling effects.
Another reviewer on the Listerine.com site identified SLS as the cause of huge chunks of cheek and gum tissue to be coming off; it was also confirmed by this reviewer’s dentist. SLS is an industrial detergent and known irritant, which you can read more about here: http://slsfree.net (and many other sites, if you search around).
All that Johnson and Johnson, the company behind this product, would respond to these negative reviews was how they want to gather additional information from and speak with the reviewers directly. However, that was over a year ago, and the product is still on our supermarket shelves, being bought and used by the unsuspecting public. I find it utterly disgraceful that such a dangerous product is allowed to be sold.
Saying that the moderators don't have admin rights and thus are unable to retrieve the content of the datbtrue forum is just conjecture.
It could be true, but outside of Dat and the moderators themselves I don't know how anybody else could possibly know.
I'm quite sure of one thing though - at least one of the moderators has clear intentions to set up another forum and get back the old datbtrue members.
I think that Datbtrue has done enough for plenty of people to merit a bit of trust and good faith. If he says he's closing for serious health problems i think we should believe him.
As for archiving the site, this is being done by his moderators and they intend to get forum members onto another forum.
I have no reason to doubt good faith of Datbtrue.
We don't know yet though, whether admin rights were given to the moderators so that they can retrieve the content. Some people have said that this wasn't done, hence the topic of this thread.
I should have stated more clearly that the topic is more about why the content wasn't allowed to continue, as in, to be moved to another site. We all know that the original site was being shut down.
I think that Datbtrue has done enough for plenty of people to merit a bit of trust and good faith. If he says he's closing for serious health problems i think we should believe him.
As for archiving the site, this is being done by his moderators and they intend to get forum members onto another forum.
I have no reason to doubt good faith of Datbtrue.
Unfortunately I don't believe that anybody was able to archive the site. He closed it down yesterday - one day earlier than originally planned - quite possibly to prevent anybody from doing this.
It's sad that such a vast body of knowledge contributed by Dat - as well as many others - could very well be lost.
Losing not only this knowledge, but the person behind it all, is a terrible blow to all of humanity.
Someone posted a good comment there on why he might have shut it down so suddenly. It could be that he didn't have much faith in all the research he had done, his illness still progressed to the point it's at now. Who knows, he may have thought that his use of the IGF-1 LR3 hastened the illness?
So he could have pulled the plug with the notion that other people don't get misinformed on the benefits of IGF-1, etc.
This thread is about the controversy surrounding Datbtrue's site - datbtrue.co.uk - why do you think he didn't give the credentials to a mod or two to either allow it to continue, or to have the content from it archived or passed onto another site?
No doubt some people will say it's because of legal issues. Let's hear your thoughts!
I'm calling BS on the article pulled from steroidology in opening post. Stanozolo has been shown to increase collagen synthesis (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9856839) but I can't find any credible information in scientific literature that testosterone inhibits collagen synthesis. Actually if anything it has a positive effect:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1529802
"Abstract
Testosterone and its metabolite 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (DHT) were compared with dexamethasone 21-acetate in two different animal models of arthritis and found to have effects on cartilage breakdown and inflammation. In the mouse air pouch, at the three dose levels used, significant effects were obtained with DHT and were more pronounced on cartilage breakdown than on inflammation. At the lowest dose of 0.3 mg kg-1 there was a 64% inhibition of collagen breakdown and 18% inhibition of glycosaminoglycans (GAGs) breakdown. In the antigen-induced arthritis mouse model testosterone had significant inhibitory effects on inflammation (synovial hyperplasia) and cartilage erosion."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3975417/
"........The notion that testosterone decreases joint laxity is further supported by the reported increase in the collagen content of the prostate, breast and capsular tissue and an increase in knee ligament repair strength by testosterone "
Personally I would be surprised if there were to be any information in scientific literature investigating the effect of boldenone and collagen synthesis in humans, considering that it is a veterinary drug.
These findings reveal a new paradigm by which IGF-1 influences chondrocyte metabolism, by reversing the IL-1-mediated catabolic pathway through up-regulation of its decoy receptor.